Latin Cases Controversy: The Old Order & The New Order
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What is the correct order of the cases in Latin: Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative, Ablative, Vocative or Nominative, Vocative, Accusative, Genitive, Dative, Ablative? Unchallenged for millennia, the traditional order that the vast majority of students and teachers still use today has met a new rival in the 19th annd 20th centuries, promoted by some well-meaning scholars from Northern Europe. But is there New Order truly better? I examine this question in detail in this video. Feel free to share your opinion below!
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Intro and outro music: Overture of Die Zauberflöte (The Magic Flute) by Mozart
00:00 Introduction to Latin Cases & Declensions
02:44 Latin Cases in Context
06:03 Origin of the Case Names
07:34 Localistic Theory
08:43 Origin of the Case Names
10:54 Another Theory: order of cases in a typical sentence
12:22 The Nouveau Order: Syncretism
14:25 Rask’s and Other Syncretistic Orders
19:00 What does it matter?
20:15 3 Key Reasons
20:56 Is the Syncretic Order Better?
23:15 A benefit of the Traditional Order
28:19 Memorization
30:18 Wheelock, LLPSI, Athenaze:
33:00 Perils of Collapsing the Matrix
34:55 Spaced Repition in the Traditional Order
38:08 Critique of Allen & Brink (1979)
40:11 Review of Key Reasons
43:59 What you should do
44:54 Outtakes
Key Source:
Allen & Brink (2014) The old order and the new: A case history:
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