The Line Between Safety and Freedom | Chris Olson | EP 460

Dr. Jordan Peterson sits down with cybercrime expert and CEO of The Media Trust, Chris Olson. They discuss the key targets for cybercrime, dating and other online scams, what legislative measures for internet safety might look like, and the necessary sacrifice major companies need to make for a better digital ecosystem. Chris Olson is the CEO of The Media Trust, a company founded with the goal of transforming the internet experience by helping technology and digital media companies create a safer internet for people. Under his leadership, the company invented the world’s first digital data compliance, Children’s Online Privacy (COPPA) and website/mobile-app malware scanning technologies. Through infrastructure in 120 countries, The Media Trust protects billions of people every month from digital attacks. Fortune 10 to hundreds of small and medium-sized tech and digital media companies leverage The Media Trust to protect their customers from digital harm and unwanted data collection. This episode was recorded on June 23, 2024 Dr. Peterson’s extensive catalog is available now on DailyWire : ALL LINKS: - Sponsor - Beam: Get 40% off for a limited time! Shopify: Get a $1/ month FREE trial with full access to Shopify’s entire suite of features: - Links - For Chris Olson: Website The Media Trust Social Media LinkedIn X Chris on LinkedIn Chris on X - Chapters - (0:00) Coming up (0:18) Intro (3:04) Domains of online harm, third-part code (7:57) Synthetic personas (10:19) Dating scams, optimal criminals (19:16) The footprint you leave online (21:58) How do we conceptualize the status of law in a digital world? (27:15) Intermediary agencies need to enforce existing laws (32:13) The reality of the problem for senior citizens, tech support scams (37:01) Deep fakes, digital kidnapping (43:48) The utility of doubt, our relationship to the digital ecosystem (47:34) Balancing freedom and safety online (52:08) Legislative solutions (56:52) Drug sales and human trafficking (1:00:39) Medical scams (1:03:02) Parasites on and offline: what we can learn from evolution (1:07:04) The “bigger” concern and the necessary brand sacrifice (1:09:33) Trust is the basis of wealth (1:10:24) Using AI to fight cybercrime // COURSES // Discovering Personality: Self Authoring Suite: Understand Myself (personality test): // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus