ISLAM’S ORIGINS (Part 2) What Muslims won’t say about Muhammad & the Qur’an!

On September 13, 2023 Jay went to Calvary Chapel Chino Hills (CCCH) to introduce, in front of 2,000 people, the 4 historical problems concerning the Origins of Islam (i.e. the Book, the Man, the Place, and the Sources), but was only given one hour to do so. Since then over 1 million people have watched it on the CCCH YouTube site, and another 330,000 people have watched it on the Pfanderfilms site. Due to its popularity, the pastor of CCCH, Jack Hibbs, asked him to return on November 18 to unpack it in a 4-hour session to around 1,000 people. This is Part 2 of that talk, which covers the Historical problems with Muhammad and the Qur’an. Below are his CONCLUSIONS concerning the HISTORICAL PROBLEMS with the SOURCES of Islam, the city of MECCA, the prophet MUHAMMAD, and the QUR’AN: THE SOURCES: It is obvious that everything Muslims are dependent on for their ‘book, man and place’ are based on Traditions (SIN) which are 200 – 300 years too late, and 100s of miles too far north MECCA: This city proves probably the biggest problem for Muslims because: •The SIN speaks of a city with much vegetation, existing since Adam & Eve, & with 300 prophets buried •Yet, it’s not referred to until 741 AD, and none of the early maps show Mecca at all •Patricia Crone debunked Watt’s land based ‘Trade-Route Theory’ in her 1987 book on Mecca •We debunked the Red Sea Trade via Arabia, proving it was all via Africa, because it had water •All of the 7th century Qiblas were facing Petra up to 706 AD, and not Mecca until 715 AD •None of the surrounding empires ever heard of the Mecca •All of the stages of the Hajj were simply borrowed from other places, mostly Jerusalem MUHAMMAD: •The coins prove that the area under “Islam” was either Christian or Zoroastrian until 692 AD •The Rock inscriptions prove that Islam as we know it didn’t appear until around 730 AD •All of the 7th c. references for Muhammad are too far north, or refer to someone else who is ”the praised one” THE QUR’AN: •The 6 earliest manuscripts prove that men created different Qur’ans between the 7th – 9th centuries •The Birmingham Folios prove that Muslims borrowed stories created long before the Qur’an •The 30 Qira’ats which proliferated from the 8th-10th centuries proved the Qur’an was evolving everywhere •Holding up the 26 Qira’ats in 2016 opened up a whole ‘can of worms’ for Muslim scholars •The  interview of June 8, 2020 created a platform for us to go public with the Qira’at Narrative •The 29 Qira’at Variants dumped into the Nile in 1924 prove that when Muslims find problems with their Qur’an, they either burn them, wash them, erase them, cover them, or sink them to destroy the evidence! •The 4,000 Consonantal Variants prove that Muslims have accreted, deleted and corrupted their text, before standardizing it in the last century •The 63 fragments amassed to find just 96% of the Qur’an proves Muslims still can’t find a complete Qur’an for over 100 years, as their fragments are tentative, or have no sources •The Aramaic proto-Qur’an proves that when we go back to the original text we will find Jesus! A POSSIBLE SCENARIO FOR THE ORIGINS OF ISLAM: •The 7th – 8th century Arabs in order to create their own distinct identity needed a ‘book, a man, and a place’, which they did with the Qur’an, Muhammad and Mecca; but it didn’t take just 22 years as the SIN claims, but centuries, proving that Islam is as man-made as any other religion, unlike Christianity! WHY IS THIS ’HISTORICAL CRITIQUE’ SO POPULAR? 1) We can use this material today to disprove the Preservation of the Qur’an, Muhammad and Mecca 2) It is Islam and not us who are ‘arguing from silence’, as we have the 7th c. evidence they don’t have 3) These arguments hit at the very foundations of Islam; yet they are neutral and ‘politically correct’ 4) It is visual: Notice that everything we show you has to do with pictures of coins, rocks, buildings, maps, timelines and manuscripts. Even speaking fast you still got the ‘gist’ of what he was saying 5) You don’t have to know Arabic to understand it, or use it: One of the biggest fears we hear from many Christians is that they don’t want to have to learn Arabic in order to discuss Islam with Muslims 6) It is foundational to everything Muslims believe: It features one book, one man, and one place; yet, without any one of the three, Islam “falls to pieces” and is destroyed 7) It is Historically neutral, and therefore NOT Islamophobic, or “hate speech”: Thus, everyone can use it 8) But we really would prefer that Christians to use it…why? •Because Christians have the only book, and man, and place which have passed these criticisms •Thus, we understand its power, and have the right to use it publicly…but mostly…. •We are the only ones who have a better response, and a better solution = Jesus Christ! © Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, Jan.5, 2024 (100,000) Music: ’Joy at Work’ by Musicifiles, from filmmusic-io-Bought 2022-04-28